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Attack From Mars Remake (AFMR) => Attack From Mars Remake (AFMR) => Topic started by: PPS on March 01, 2016, 11:08:52 PM

Title: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: PPS on March 01, 2016, 11:08:52 PM
Well, not alot to say yet, but it will be a shift in how we did things with MMR ... first change is we are tightening up best we can so announcement is a short time before production - can we be certain of this, no, but we certainly know what things need to happen that did not to at least bring the distance between the announcement and orders to shipment WAY down.


I can say that parts pre-production parts have all been ordered and are being checked out as they come in. There is at least one fully running proto with almost all new production parts. The electronics are multiple revs in and the game is playing with sounds and lights and has been for some time.


There will be a different approach to how the versions of the game are structured, a bit different for MMR which will be obvious once you see the game.


More as we have more to say ...
Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: Lloyd Olson on March 02, 2016, 12:01:02 AM
Exciting times for pinball ! Thanks Rick and CGC.

LTG : )
Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: PPS on March 02, 2016, 09:35:52 AM
The reveal of Game #2 is not going to happen at TPF, unfortunately. Slight delay due to engineering and parts ordering process. The goal is to keep distance and confidence between announcing and availability reasonably low - so we will put this off only for a short while until things are where they need to be.


rick

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Post by: flisflos on March 02, 2016, 02:27:52 PM
Rick,

Can't you give us just the first lettre of game 2 ?  :D
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Post by: frolic on March 02, 2016, 04:30:52 PM
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The goal is to keep distance and confidence between announcing and availability reasonably low

I think this is paramount. Yeah it's great to bring games to shows to show them off and get people excited, but if there isn't product ready to be delivered (soon), then the whole clusterF starts all over again.

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Post by: PPS on March 02, 2016, 06:15:09 PM
That's exactly why it's not at TPF, as we did not feel comfortable that we would not end up with this increase between showing and getting everyone riled up and delivering.
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Post by: Viper001 on March 02, 2016, 08:27:41 PM
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but we certainly know what things need to happen that did not to at least bring the distance between the announcement and orders to shipment WAY down.
Rick, respectfully asking. But I thought this time there was going to be zero distance between ordering and shipping the games? As in "no more pre-orders taken on subsequent titles". I think from many of your past statements there was a clear assumption that the games would be built and then sold, in that order.

Clearly there is plenty of demand for whatever you are building, assuming it isn't Popeye.  :)
Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: PPS on March 02, 2016, 10:15:09 PM
Well, it's not smart (pinball) business to have product and then tell the market about it, especially when there are millions of $ in cost of goods.


What is better is to give enough time for customers to place orders with resellers, and then the resellers will indicate their demand.


Without a decent measure of the demand it's a little difficult to invest in X quantity of games - we expect there to be demand, but you don't stall everything waiting for resellers to collect money, etc.


Chicago Gaming is not going a warehousing (which costs money), and neither Stern nor CGC really wants to hold games.


So, if people are uncomfortable with paying ahead for a game, then they should wait until some reseller has them at their place and they can pick it up (and pay sales tax usually). They do it all the time with Sterns, so not sure the model would be any different here.


Rick







Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: Viper001 on March 03, 2016, 09:19:19 AM
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Chicago Gaming is not going a warehousing (which costs money), and neither Stern nor CGC really wants to hold games.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. But isn't knowing demand and storing games until they are sold kind of the definition of a distributor? Respectfully, I am only parroting what you promised about this time last year. Going forward there would be no more pre-orders on games.

In any case I'm looking forward to other titles you are doing. Maybe the rumors will be false and you are tooling up to build me a Funhouse right now.  ;D
Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: PPS on March 03, 2016, 11:02:49 AM
This is not a pre-order, it's an order. We do not need pre-orders to figure out how many we are building as parts have already been ordered for a first batch.


It is typical to get the channel started before building product - this is not the same, no business would run building parts, putting them in a warehouse and then telling people to order them from stock - that is never been done with any pinball machine I've ever seen, including stern.


Again, if people are uncomfortable, then they have do not have to buy, no problem, no one is making them. I think the only advise I would have is to choose carefully who they buy from, as we have all seen people/businesses who were reputable then become unstable for various personal or business reasons and then strange things happen.


Rick
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Post by: frolic on March 04, 2016, 07:31:24 AM
I posted this somewhere else, but I'm going to make the same point here:

The colorizing should be part of the r&d budget for each game, and be rolled out included with each remake, ideally on release.

It would throw fuel on the sales, and immediately make the remakes more coveted than originals.

The argument about whether a remake should include improved things not original is already moot, because the machines are shipping with leds instead of incandescent, new boards, etc.

Also solves the piracy issues, since every remake owner then is entitled to the color dots and keeps life simple for everyone.



Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: PPS on March 04, 2016, 08:14:51 AM
The current plan is that full color will be integrated into at least one of the models of the game from the start.
Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: BenetBoy78 on March 27, 2016, 05:00:04 PM
Hi Rick,
Happy Easter to you and your family and all at PPS.
Easter reminds me of my loving Granny.  She always said, "Patience is a virtue young man".  I think that holds true in these days, especially when it comes to Game #2.
If you allow it, anticipation can be relished as much as the actuality of reality.
All the best, Mike V
Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: PPS on March 28, 2016, 01:02:06 PM
Thank you for the kind words.
Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: hocuslocus on April 05, 2016, 06:21:18 PM
I'd honestly rather pre-order. if you think about it your going to be waiting about the same amount of time regardless (from now till you get your order). the difference is you kick back and wait knowing you have a secure spot and you find out what the title is to game #2 faster :D

I was lucky though, I only waited 7 months. Honestly wouldn't of bothered me to wait longer, but I'm happy it came when it did. anybody who has done any kind of project, which should be everyone. Should realize things usually take longer then expected almost everytime. The more variables involved the higher the chance. the funny thing is people understand this ( I think anyway). one of the biggest things about most people is if they can complain they will, to anyone listening.
Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: PPS on April 05, 2016, 06:32:57 PM
People that are comfortable will pre-order, people that are not don't have too. As always in life we learn and we change what happens. This time we will have a better estimate of a real timeframe for release, and the distance between the pre-order and the order will be shorter, which is why PPS initiated the delay to announcing it past TPF - we would have loved to have shown it there (and we could have as it's been running fine for months), but we did not feel that we had a decent view of when it would actually be ready on the line to produce. We are monitoring with CGC to see where things are and will announce at the best time. That does not mean that the real production may not move out (or shockingly in), but it means we will have a better idea than what happened with MMR.

Rick

Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: mbuawa on April 06, 2016, 08:27:02 AM
Super excited to find out what machine #2 is!!!!!!!! Attack from Mars? Monster Bash? I hope it's one of those!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: Kawydud on April 06, 2016, 11:56:34 AM
Looking forward to game 2 as well, hoping for AFM.  Had the opportunity to setup an MMR, really was impressed with the game. 
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Post by: rob on April 06, 2016, 02:37:54 PM
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Super excited to find out what machine #2 is!!!!!!!! Attack from Mars? Monster Bash? I hope it's one of those!!!!!!!!

I hope PPS/Rick will announce machine #2 soon or I will go for the Ghostbusters.
Unfortunately I do not have enough for 2 machines.... :)
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Post by: Quadrat on April 06, 2016, 04:45:44 PM
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Super excited to find out what machine #2 is!!!!!!!! Attack from Mars? Monster Bash? I hope it's one of those!!!!!!!!

I hope PPS/Rick will announce machine #2 soon or I will go for the Ghostbusters.
Unfortunately I do not have enough for 2 machines.... :)

I'm in for a Monster Bash, if and when it comes?? I hope they re-make it soon not later.
Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: PPS on April 06, 2016, 07:08:12 PM
Actually there is a little bit of work going on Game #3 - certain resources are completely done with Game #2, so hopefully we are speeding up ... hopefully.
Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: mbuawa on April 07, 2016, 10:06:41 AM
Game #2 Attack from Mars??? Game #3 Monster Bash????? TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: Quadrat on April 07, 2016, 01:27:26 PM
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Game #2 Attack from Mars??? Game #3 Monster Bash? ??? ? TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!!!

At what $$ level for an AFMR? Will you pay $8,500.00 for it?

I'm out on the AFMR at $8,500.00. Others will still be in at that price.
100% a great pin, fun to play.
My two cents is they will need to come down on price for the AFMR if they want to sell a 1,000 units or more.

I think they would have a better chance with the MBR at the $8,500.00 price level than AFMR.
I'm in on a MBR if the price is not too crazy.

BTW still can't wait to get my MMR pin.

Quadrat




Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: Leo on April 07, 2016, 02:17:29 PM
100% agree with Quadrat


AFM was much cheaper than MM on the used market, so the price of a remake should reflect this difference, or the demand won't be as good as the MMR.
MB is a different animal, and I won't be shocked if MBR will be priced similar to the MMR.
Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: mbuawa on April 08, 2016, 10:08:16 AM
NIB AFM for $8500? PLEASE TAKE MY MONEY NOW!
Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: PPS on April 08, 2016, 11:28:21 AM
There will be some changes to the model structure of game #2 and beyond ... more differentiation between the models (likely 2 models) than was the case with MMR ...


rick

Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: Leo on April 08, 2016, 01:07:36 PM
Can't wait for the official announcement !!
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Post by: flipper73 on April 09, 2016, 07:18:36 AM
In my opinion cactus canyon would be the best for the next remake!
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Post by: Quadrat on April 09, 2016, 12:14:04 PM
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In my opinion cactus canyon would be the best for the next remake!

I just played one in Las Vegas.
I like the quick draw drop targets that pop up.
Lot's of cool toys, I would get one.
Time will tell on what game number remake it will be.
Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: Leo on April 09, 2016, 12:16:48 PM
Remember Pinball Expo 2014 flyer ;)


(http://i58.tinypic.com/205fsbn.jpg)
Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: Leo on April 09, 2016, 12:18:42 PM
or maybe this one ?


(http://i62.tinypic.com/10orasw.jpg)
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Post by: BenetBoy78 on April 10, 2016, 03:00:33 AM
I thought I read that Monster Bash required licensing from each monster.  Maybe it was written in sarcasm and I was dreary eyed. Not sure, but that might be a MB deal delayer, maybe not.  Maybe Rick can clear up any licensing that is required for a MB type theme(Warner Brothers?), and the time to process the paperwork/negotiations and have to deal with that part of pinball biz. You give up your hobby when you make it your biz?

As far as the price goes, keep it as low as you can, but still make enough profit to keep rolling out the remakes, cover your family health care, bills, etc, family vacation, new used car, AC fix, kids braces, etc....  Best of Luck!!
 
Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: jgmackay on April 11, 2016, 04:03:03 PM
Rick,


Can you tell us how or what venue your going to annouce game #2? 


Thank you,
John
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Post by: PPS on April 11, 2016, 05:09:58 PM
It will be at the venue that is chosen based on game being at a point where PPS feel comfortable announcing it.


That venue will depend on when we agree that the game is at that point.


rick

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Post by: jgmackay on April 11, 2016, 08:29:44 PM

Good Answer! Very twicky LOL 



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It will be at the venue that is chosen based on game being at a point where PPS feel comfortable announcing it.


That venue will depend on when we agree that the game is at that point.


rick
Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: PPS on April 11, 2016, 09:14:06 PM
how to use alot of words and not give any useful answer ... lol
Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: stretch2 on April 17, 2016, 06:47:16 PM
I have spoken to Rick recently, and can say that I find him to be honest and straightforward to a fault.I tried to get better hints at Game #2, but he stayed the course with information that only made the anticipation of the delayed announcement even more inceased.
The MMr in my opinion has exceeded expectations.What's a little more time  going to change anyway? ::)
Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: JJHLH on April 25, 2016, 02:37:14 PM
I hope game #2 is AFM.  With MMr and AFMr you would have 2 of the top 3 rated games according to many.  Looking forward to seeing what the plans are. 
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Post by: swagger on April 25, 2016, 03:39:07 PM
My guess is Monster Bash being most likely for #2. Why? Because you can buy AFM in decent condition for 6.5 - 7k today. This is less than what a remake will go for, so demand will not be so hot.


MB on the other hand is selling for a few thousand over what MBR would go for, so demand will be there.


CC is probably not going to be a big seller if they ever go down that road unless they finish the game code. As it stands today its only expensive as its very rare, and the last "standard" game Williams made.
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Post by: Lloyd Olson on April 25, 2016, 04:58:30 PM
Only thing missing on CC is one thing on the rule card that was decided to be left out. Rest is done. Pinball News has the recording of the fireside chat with the designers where this is explained.

AFMR will sell. Mint or restored AFM's go for more than 7K. And decent ones are still 21 years old.

LTG : )



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Post by: JJHLH on April 25, 2016, 06:07:52 PM
ToTAN would be a great choice as Table #3.  Since The Pinball Arcade uses it as their free game a lot of people are already familiar with it.  It also looks and sounds beautiful and is a ton of fun!
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Post by: PPS on April 25, 2016, 07:04:09 PM
Regardless of when CC is, the code would be 'completed' (we have a runtime compile environment of the CC code - i.e. we have the complete source code). Additionally, there is some features that were left off the game (like the saloon doors - we have the tooling for those as well).


Not saying where CC is in the queue of games, but just fyi regarding CC.


Rick

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Post by: glasairpilot on April 25, 2016, 07:19:18 PM
Build CV. That machine just has the look.
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Post by: swagger on April 25, 2016, 07:24:23 PM
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Regardless of when CC is, the code would be 'completed' (we have a runtime compile environment of the CC code - i.e. we have the complete source code). Additionally, there is some features that were left off the game (like the saloon doors - we have the tooling for those as well).


Not saying where CC is in the queue of games, but just fyi regarding CC.


Rick


Thanks Rick. CC would be on my list to purchase, and maybe MB. CC bugs me today when I put my name on the high score table, and no music plays in the background. Feels wrong.
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Post by: mbuawa on April 27, 2016, 12:17:17 PM
I can't help but notice that a 3D translite for MM first appeared.....Then AFM and WW........Doesn't that make it pretty obvious the next 2 remakes are AFM and WW? Not sure which order, though I suspect AFM then WW.......Thoughts?
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Post by: swagger on April 27, 2016, 01:25:12 PM
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I can't help but notice that a 3D translite for MM first appeared.....Then AFM and WW........Doesn't that make it pretty obvious the next 2 remakes are AFM and WW? Not sure which order, though I suspect AFM then WW.......Thoughts?


I read somewhere they are only doing WPC-95 games right now, due to the emulation framework they are currently running only supporting wpc-95. If thats true it rules out WW.


They could improve their emulation setup down the road to cover wpc89 games, but my guess is they will make all the high demand wpc-95 games before tackling that.
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Post by: hocuslocus on April 27, 2016, 06:08:28 PM
regardless of whatever it is  you can sign me up. I have the medieval madness on route right now and it's doing great numbers anywhere from 150 to 200 a week. I even have a WOZ and it's usually does about 3/4 of that. think one of the main differences between a lot of the games from the 90's and now is there was a clear objective, you really only had to play the game a few times to get the gist of it. So the majority of the players aren't confused as to what's going on half the time.

 WOZ seems to appeal more towards people who are more experienced. one of the biggest complaints I get from new players is they feel cheated because their game is over in usually less then a minute. I was able to somewhat remedy that by turning on the ball save timer and increasing the chance of a match to 20%. still doesn't make it easier to understand.

but owning the MMR has definitely turned me on to investing in the next few to come.
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Post by: ScottM on May 15, 2016, 07:29:54 AM
I just played CCC at the VFW in Brighton, MI and what a blast! Previously I was not interested in buying one when this was first discussed because my only exposure was through pin arcade. If a CCCR is made which includes the features Rick stated, then you can count me in.



Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: Nilroc on May 19, 2016, 11:24:32 PM
Hey Rick,
Are you going to have options on the second machine?


Like Dark Ink Inserts or Faded Ink Inserts >:(
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Post by: PPS on May 19, 2016, 11:26:21 PM
There will be no options.


Inserts will not be a point of contention as I think most every other game had white behind the black ink originally.


rick

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Post by: metallik on May 26, 2016, 12:33:11 PM
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There will be no options.

Inserts will not be a point of contention as I think most every other game had white behind the black ink originally.


The majority of AFM's inserts are black ink only.  All shot rows (except Jackpots), all locks, return to battle, 3 of the 4 SOL inserts, MARTIAN inserts..

Please do not rely on multiple ink layers to solve this problem, especially if you're going to do AFM at some point.  Replacement playfields with opaque ink have been manufactured recently, so it should be possible for CGC to do the same.

http://www.pinball-machines-australia.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/pf-afm-01.jpg
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Post by: Kawydud on June 30, 2016, 02:55:02 PM
anything new?  Maybe hoping for a Christmas delivery?   :P
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Post by: PPS on June 30, 2016, 06:20:52 PM
There is news but I can't tell you  ;D

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Post by: Metal Man on June 30, 2016, 06:39:00 PM
I don't really feel like reading through 4 pages of posts here so, has the new game title been announced? 
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Post by: Lloyd Olson on June 30, 2016, 07:34:00 PM
No.

LTG : )
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Post by: Leo on July 01, 2016, 01:34:34 AM
Always quick and easy reply from Lloyd, love it  ;D
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Post by: VGC1612 on July 18, 2016, 08:55:41 PM
Cant wait for a Kingpin and/or a Big Bang Bar!
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Post by: pinster on July 27, 2016, 12:59:43 PM
A source has told me its AFM
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Post by: Kawydud on July 27, 2016, 04:28:40 PM
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A source has told me its AFM

This is what we keep hoping for. 
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Post by: Hooked on July 29, 2016, 10:36:06 PM
Its simple to figure out...what game has had the most new parts made in the last 6 months. What game is going down in value on the secondary market.  What game is the easiest to remake and guarantee sales north of 1k machines.


AFMr IMO will be next.


If Rick wanted to really make a splash make FH 2.0 third machine with added Animation on a screen DMD size.
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Post by: Flowst on July 31, 2016, 05:30:43 PM
I sincerely hope there is discussion involving Monster Bash as a remake...
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Post by: Hooked on July 31, 2016, 08:33:13 PM
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I sincerely hope there is discussion involving Monster Bash as a remake...
Licensing may be an issue on that one (cost wise).
I can see people paying more than what they paid for MMr for future remakes.

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Post by: Amigas on August 02, 2016, 10:09:34 PM
Tales of the arabian nights would be good
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Post by: Pinterest on August 02, 2016, 10:14:14 PM
Hey Rick,


I played quite a few games on MMR recently and really enjoyed it.


Heard the rumors - when will it be time to confirm or deny Game #2?


Mike
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Post by: PPS on August 02, 2016, 10:22:02 PM
soon ...
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Post by: hocuslocus on August 09, 2016, 06:13:58 PM
That would be nice if they could remake Big bang, I also played KingPin from capcom on visual pinball that seems like it would of been a great game, to bad. Lot of great titles, I stopped buying new and started getting old bally/Williams machines. Got titles I was sure probably weren't on the remake list, Champion Pub and RFM. Saw a NIB champion pub on ebay for 8,400. Just curious would that mean Adams family might make it on the list or is that midway. I get very confused with these companies. bally/midway, Williams, bally....
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Post by: Hooked on August 22, 2016, 10:11:50 PM
Lets take a guess..


AFM  - next with out LE options which is a bummer for me because I like the options on my MMr LE.


CC - which is a bummer for me, I find it too easy.
They will keep pumping out machines with the basic system which is great.
Big question is will BBB be remade... again.
That would me more overhead for R&D.

Title: Re: Welcome to Game #2 board on the PPS forum
Post by: Griffin on August 25, 2016, 03:40:58 PM
I recently picked up a used HUO MMRLE and I am enjoying it immensely!!! I had a GBLE on order from Stern but cancelled after 4 months when I started to see all those awful PF clear coat issues starting to emerge. I wasn't going to take an $8,000 chance on that so I got my money out and went in search of an MMRLE.


I'm extremely happy with the quality and the new engineering choices, it's a fantastic game. I'm ready to hear what you guys have up your sleeve next and would be excited by MBR AFMR or CCR.
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Post by: hocuslocus on September 02, 2016, 05:04:37 PM
what's the likelihood of the game being announced at the expo?
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Post by: PPS on September 03, 2016, 10:37:08 AM
Game #2 is in UL test now ... most of the parts are either in or ordered, and I should be getting a game to do final test on in the next 2-3 weeks ... as to where and when the game would be announced ... barring any issues I would expect it to be announce sometime around Expo and for sure there will be a couple for people to see/play ..
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Post by: Kawydud on September 06, 2016, 09:24:55 AM
 8) Rolling the dice on AFM.  Can't wait.
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Post by: rob on September 06, 2016, 03:21:07 PM
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8) Rolling the dice on AFM.  Can't wait.

Me neither  :)
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Post by: flisflos on September 19, 2016, 05:35:10 PM
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soon ...

Hi Rick,

How soon is soon ? From 2/8 till now (19/9)  it's more than 1,5 month - that's not soon in my opinion?  :-\

Would it be this month, next month, or much later ?

BTW : I'm very happy with my MMRLE that I have since one month.  :)

Greetings from Belgium (Europe)



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Post by: Pinballhog on September 28, 2016, 06:34:27 PM
Rick are you guys doing a session at Pinball Expo this year?  We will be there but I didn't see you on the schedule.
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Post by: PPS on September 28, 2016, 06:51:38 PM
I had been asked to but need to be in many different places during the time I'm there, so I think CGC may be doing one as that is what I recommended, but not sure if they put something together or not.




rick
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Post by: Pinballhog on September 28, 2016, 06:57:43 PM
Please let us know if you get any info.  Thank you.
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Post by: Kawydud on October 07, 2016, 08:57:00 AM
T-minus 7 days and counting for the announcement hopefully.  :)

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Post by: PPS on October 07, 2016, 12:48:29 PM
maybe ;-(
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Post by: bagajellydonuts on October 08, 2016, 11:16:57 AM
With a "crowded" docket expected for Chicago, I wouldn't be surprised to see this announcement delayed.


 
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Post by: Kawydud on October 10, 2016, 10:57:49 AM
 ;) I actually don't need an announcement, just ship me a new AFM and I'll be a happy camper. 
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Post by: PPS on October 10, 2016, 01:47:55 PM
We are much more interested in announcing a game with a tight shipping timeframe ... most of the games that are being annouced are a bit off in the distance, we hopefully would be one of the first shipping.


rick

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Post by: Leo on October 10, 2016, 02:57:39 PM
Remake#2 would be awesome before end of year :)
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Post by: john17a on October 11, 2016, 05:57:19 PM
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Remake#2 would be awesome before end of year :)

Very wishful thinking      but a pleasant thought non the less 
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Post by: Lloyd Olson on October 12, 2016, 12:08:52 AM
On the Expo Schedule :

1 pm Friday - Chicago Gaming Unveiling Pin #2 with Doug Duba and Doug Skor.

LTG : )
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Post by: PPS on October 12, 2016, 12:38:32 AM
That will likely be revised ... game is in finishing touches - we don't want a game to show, we all want a game that people can purchase. I think expo will be full of games to show ... all parties involved want to reveal a game that is fully complete and will available for people to order and buy doing the best to not have an MMR experience with delays to produce ... that is far more important than trying to time for a show, as we can always to launch events as well as there are shows about every month these days ...
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Post by: sirlonzelot on October 14, 2016, 03:36:38 AM
So any chance we will know what game 2 is over the weekend?
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Post by: Wiked on October 23, 2016, 03:41:22 AM
Don't worry we can wait for AFMr a little longer. It helps me as I am still on the fence about buying another.


It's so much better waiting to announce it until people can actually buy it and have it delivered within a fair time frame this time. Well done to Rick and both Dougs for doing it this way from now on.
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Post by: sirlonzelot on October 23, 2016, 06:54:29 AM
Why so sure that it is afmr ?
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Post by: Lloyd Olson on October 23, 2016, 01:18:23 PM
Because we read it on Pinside. :)

LTG : )
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Post by: Leo on October 23, 2016, 01:54:11 PM
If it's on Pinside, it must be true  ;D :P
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Post by: Flowst on October 26, 2016, 12:25:34 PM
Hi Folks,
Other than rumors, wish lists and gossip....Is there any information about the next release as of yet? Is there any idea how many remakes are in the plans for Planetary Pinball?
Love my MMr, cant wait to add to the collection.
Thanks,
Jim
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Post by: paynemic on November 14, 2016, 11:47:31 PM
Rick,
Any guidance on at least a date to reveal the name? Any info?
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Post by: Jeffpinball on November 15, 2016, 10:05:23 AM
Are you supposed to be releasing the info today at IAAPA? The floor opened 4 minutes ago/ What is it?  :D
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Post by: PPS on November 17, 2016, 12:40:46 PM
Nope, that was the idea, but a couple of details not ironed out, so we are not announcing sooner than it should.


Rick

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Post by: Wickerman on November 22, 2016, 10:26:26 AM
tick tock
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Post by: PPS on November 22, 2016, 03:10:30 PM
We are finalizing things, and I will post on the PPS forum information as soon as we have anything to post, but it will be soon.


I can tell you that most parts are in or have been ordered, and assemblies are being constructed now, electronics have been done for months. There are just some minor cosmetic details being finalized, etc.


We have had something to do with the delay in announcing as we want the distance between ordering and delivery to be 'reasonable'.


Rick

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Post by: paynemic on November 22, 2016, 11:13:58 PM
I have a friend with credit card in hand if it's amfr so, you know....
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Post by: Jeffpinball on November 26, 2016, 10:18:38 AM
Well I have cash in hand for a Cactus Canyon  ;D but I belive you are going to see your game first.
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Post by: mbuawa on November 29, 2016, 04:41:17 PM
I've got a phat stack of benjies waiting for a AFMr
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Post by: hocuslocus on November 30, 2016, 05:59:30 PM
so just so I'm clear the place I need to keep looking back on this page for the announcement? (not pinside or tilt etc.)

also how long after the announcement are you planning on taking orders? (can I call planetary to place an order directly after I see the announcement?)

thank you
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Post by: PPS on December 01, 2016, 08:46:11 PM
SO, the FIRST place I'm going to announce it here, and I'm sure whether I or CGC announce it on Pinside it would be there within a minute or two anyways.


We would likely be taking 'pre-orders' as the game will be shipping reasonably soon after the announcement. The game will be built at Chicago Gaming which has the benefit of not having alot of issues in terms of finding parts and scheduling the line (which the Stern execs have been great, but the combination of two companies trying to manage parts shortages and issues has been a challenge) - so the upside should be a more consistent 'up-time' to producing games. The downside is that CGC's line will inherently be running slower per day ... but given the starts and stops on the MMR line thru the past year, it could actually be a positive, we will see.


The game is going thru final tinkering, and it went into UL testing awhile ago, but with so many things going on here, I've not checked on the status - it's alot easier this time, as CGC knows the 'pinball' UL process, as well as there are many components that are the same or similar, etc. I should be getting a pre-production game here in Reno shortly, as well as I know they are looking to put a couple out on test.


Stay tuned.


Rick

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Post by: Flowst on December 02, 2016, 10:42:02 AM
Hello Rick,
Thanks for the update and excellent information, I am very much looking forward to your new game.  The MMr you guys made is wonderful.
Have to ask, and I apologize for the frustration it may cause....Do we have an official name of the new game yet and pricing structures?
I look forward to hearing from you and certainly understand your need for careful release to avoid the usual backlash.
Jim
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Post by: PPS on December 02, 2016, 02:31:47 PM
not yet ... we certainly have a name, but have not published that, as it's not useful without the answers to other key questions (pricing, etc) ...


it is FAR less painful to keep pushing the announcement that it would be to take pre-orders and deal with that we had for MMR ...


You will hear it from me first, PPS is the largest reseller of MMR's and we expect to be the same for the next games as well.


Rick
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Post by: Flowst on December 02, 2016, 03:42:47 PM
Thanks Rick,

Like many others I'm sure, I am very much looking forward to your next machine release.
Ill keep an eye out for future posts from you, and completely understand Planetary's need to be cautious with information updates. 
Question about the physical purchase, will it be handled from the PPS website?
Jim

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Post by: PPS on December 02, 2016, 08:41:46 PM
There is a discussion required about current availability, questions to answer, etc, also payment options ... so while we will have info on the site it will generally be not be ordered via the web ...
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Post by: jdcdiffey on December 03, 2016, 11:12:07 PM
Would any consideration be given to your MMR customers to order first?  You would already have all of are info.

John
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Post by: PPS on December 04, 2016, 11:19:09 AM
Yes. Stay Tuned.
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Post by: Kawydud on December 09, 2016, 09:13:20 AM
Wife bought me this for Christmas, then didn't like how it arrived, so she just gave it to me.
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Post by: texture on December 09, 2016, 01:19:26 PM
That's funny, wife got me a Monster Bash miniature. lol.  You can still get a decent AFM 6-7k . 5k +- for one that needs restoration.  Have a feeling its MB..  Just picked up a decent AFM for $5500.  Hopefully the wife gets ya a MB as well, haha! Cheers!
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Post by: TheRudyB on December 19, 2016, 02:23:22 PM
Any chance we may get an early Christmas gift in the form of the announcement of game #2 this week?


The suspense is really weighing heavy on my shoulders. Oops! Sorry ... those are my suspenders - from all the quarters I have in my pockets that I've been saving for it.   :) :) :)
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Post by: rand on December 27, 2016, 11:59:57 PM
This elastic tension is about to Snap **

Lets Go 2017..!!!
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Post by: hocuslocus on December 30, 2016, 02:07:50 PM
I'm betting on mid to late march to announce.
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Post by: VGC1612 on December 30, 2016, 06:56:15 PM
Cant wait to know #2 if i save money or not for it
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Post by: TheRudyB on December 31, 2016, 11:08:12 AM
Oh go ahead, VGC1612 and do what I'm doing: save money for it. You don't *have* to buy it if it's a game you already have or don't particularly care for. If the former, great. If the latter, you've got some extra funds for a nice vacation or other long-overdue treat.


I'm just waiting for the announcement to find out which one gets my savings.
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Post by: Wickerman on December 31, 2016, 02:41:38 PM
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I'm betting on mid to late march to announce.


sort of a long time from the almost Chicago announcement. I wonder what caused the delay.
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Post by: PPS on January 01, 2017, 06:42:36 PM
Exactly ... this is why we are holding the annoucement until 'about ready' ... had we gone ahead in even Oct, it would be more time ... we should be discussing status and annoucement timing this week now that everyone is back.


Rick

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Post by: 1PinballKnight on January 01, 2017, 08:10:13 PM
Happy New Years everyone. I knew the post before last would awaken the PPS God and let us know some sort of status. Thanks Rick and Company. Glad you folks are trying to iron out any and all last minute wrinkles that you may or have experienced with MMRLE/Standards coming to reality and out the door as smooth as possible. Cheers!!!!!

R
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Post by: TheRudyB on January 01, 2017, 09:55:44 PM
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Exactly ... this is why we are holding the annoucement until 'about ready' ... had we gone ahead in even Oct, it would be more time ... we should be discussing status and annoucement timing this week now that everyone is back.


Rick


To invent a new quote from the Duke of Bourbon for New Year's Day, "Shounds likes shumting to be a real lookey forthwards to like >hiccup<!"
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Post by: VGC1612 on January 03, 2017, 07:08:58 PM
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Oh go ahead, VGC1612 and do what I'm doing: save money for it. You don't *have* to buy it if it's a game you already have or don't particularly care for. If the former, great. If the latter, you've got some extra funds for a nice vacation or other long-overdue treat.


I'm just waiting for the announcement to find out which one gets my savings.

Youre right,i was looking too for a MMR so wait & see
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Post by: TheRudyB on January 11, 2017, 01:36:35 PM
Are we getting close enough yet to perhaps at least schedule an announcement of the announcement announcing when the announcement will be announced?  :) :) :)


I do mean that in the nicest way possible ... we're all trying to be very patient because we know it will be fantastic, but this is like knowing that Santa Claus is coming without knowing which day Christmas is!
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Post by: Flowst on January 12, 2017, 11:40:18 AM
Considering the success of the Medieval Madness remake and the impending release of the second remake.....Will there be future remakes to follow?
My MMR is so much fun and a blessing to have.  Can we anticipate or hope to see remakes 3 and on?
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Post by: Mokthemagicman on January 16, 2017, 10:34:10 AM
Are we any closer to an announcement yet?
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Post by: PPS on January 16, 2017, 08:07:17 PM
Closer yes, and it appears a bunch of pictures have 'leaked' which at this point is fine ... AFMR
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Post by: 1PinballKnight on January 16, 2017, 08:34:16 PM
Rick, sorry to hear that. Was the leak internal? Some of us want nothing more than to hear the news and get the product you want to deliver on your terms along with the quality and service you want to deliver.

R
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Post by: paynemic on January 16, 2017, 11:26:22 PM
Rick,
Sorry it came out this way.  But it's probably a gauge of how excited people are for the next remake. I already have a friend talked into it!
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Post by: Wickerman on January 17, 2017, 10:45:35 AM
Where are these leaked pics? As long as they are leaked, let's see them!
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Post by: PPS on January 17, 2017, 11:28:15 AM
They were on facebook for awhile (one of my 'friends') and then of course they are gone ... not a huge deal as after a year it's not exactly the closest guarded secret ... lol
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Post by: PPS on January 19, 2017, 01:13:50 PM
Game will be an an location somewhere around the Chicagoland area in a few days ... this will be a mostly stripped down game, as some of the features we are waiting for promo pictures, etc and want to save somethings for a full reveal with documentation, etc.


rick

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Post by: ScottM on January 19, 2017, 04:48:45 PM
Rick,  Will you revealing where in Chicagoland?  I will be visiting my son who lives in that area this weekend and would love to see it.
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Post by: PPS on January 19, 2017, 05:25:15 PM
Not sure what day and where, just had a heads up from Chicago Gaming that it will be out sometime soon
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Post by: Quadrat on January 22, 2017, 08:52:10 PM
Let me start by saying I have a MMR and love it....love it.
Can't wait for pricing and to sample the goods.
I'll be going to the expo in Banning in March, hope to see it there.
Thanks and please keep making the remakes.
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Post by: Flowst on January 23, 2017, 03:03:58 PM
I agree with Quadrat.  Thanks for the updates Rick, I love my MMr, cant wait for the AFMr and looking forward to more in the future.  Monster bash???
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Post by: Wickerman on January 30, 2017, 12:50:26 PM
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Game will be an an location somewhere around the Chicagoland area in a few days ... this will be a mostly stripped down game, as some of the features we are waiting for promo pictures, etc and want to save somethings for a full reveal with documentation, etc.


rick


Any sightings? Status updates?
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Post by: Packerjeff on January 30, 2017, 08:38:17 PM
Thanks Rick for MMR it's been flawless, good luck with AFMR, waiting patiently for MBR
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Post by: Mokthemagicman on February 03, 2017, 04:09:51 PM
Good luck with AFM.  I will probably skip it due to the gameplay being so close to MMR.  I really hope you guys do Monster Bash for your third game.  I would be ALL OVER THAT!  Keeping fingers crossed for that one.  That would really epic event if MBR gets pulled off by someone.
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Post by: AliciaC on February 05, 2017, 09:24:01 PM
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Good luck with AFM.  I will probably skip it due to the gameplay being so close to MMR.  I really hope you guys do Monster Bash for your third game.  I would be ALL OVER THAT!  Keeping fingers crossed for that one.  That would really epic event if MBR gets pulled off by someone.


Ditto - Count me in as well for a MBR.
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Post by: BenetBoy78 on February 07, 2017, 03:30:33 PM
I'm all over an AFMr and a MBr and every Limited Edition of proven titles you can get out in a quality material product, ASAP. No one is perfect, but I know the fun will be pack full in each of these coming titles.  Take all my money.... :) :) :)

Wet dream to have it modded at a SLE level where I can have it stored and played out doors under my patio UL/FM approved.  Out of indoor space and their are so many more to have and hold. :)

Thanks again
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Post by: PPS on February 07, 2017, 05:33:57 PM
I just received out evaluation unit here is NV last week from CGC for "Game#2" and really pleased ... we review and provide a round of feedback as well put a package together for final approval by WMS ... coming soon.
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Post by: paynemic on February 08, 2017, 12:19:09 AM
Can't wait Rick!  Still loving my MMR.  Looking forward to AMFr and others...
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Post by: pocketscience on February 10, 2017, 03:50:02 AM
Looking forward to AFMr from all the way down here in Australia...
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Post by: texture on February 18, 2017, 01:02:27 PM
I'm in for a MBr!  Looking forward to it Rick, Thx.
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Post by: hocuslocus on February 28, 2017, 08:28:17 AM
looks like the forum topic has officially changed ;)
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Post by: rand on March 17, 2017, 04:12:16 PM
Since there is only 500 LE , and the concept Color is Green trim ..
What was it that limited it to this color and not any other option  such as the MMR LE..
Even though it was a Limited edition I was hoping for the Plain SS trim or Black as well ..
Yes the Green is one color that I am going to have to mull over just on its 1st impression [Of seeing it]..
It was immediate on the MMR once I seen it on the web [Gold Color] it was the color to get and was Happy on that choice when I received mine .
Green ...I am reading that others are to thinking of what I am thinking to .
No criticism here just 1 lonely opinion ...but I may not be alone.
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Post by: PPS on March 17, 2017, 04:35:31 PM
that's not the correct # of LE's, there will be 1000 LE's.


everyone hated the gold ... yet most everyone got it with gold ... hmm.


i have a game here and I like the green ... I have a GB LE and I like the green ...


rick

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Post by: whoeverwhocares on March 17, 2017, 06:00:19 PM
Rick,


Maybe off-topic, but any chance you could release production numbers for MMR LE gold/black/steel?
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Post by: PPS on March 23, 2017, 09:15:51 PM
I'd have to spend some time to get the numbers, but the large majority of what we sold were gold, then I believe stainless, and then black.
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Post by: texture on March 24, 2017, 08:49:01 PM
I think a lot of people ordered gold with the intent to get it plated like the wire ramps. Mine looks like a real gold LE now,
kept the originals just in case.
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Post by: rand on March 25, 2017, 01:19:56 AM
Looking at all the news today and confirmation ,looks like I maybe able to purchase my Stainless  LE . 
Way to go Chicago Gaming ...
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Post by: JJHLH on March 26, 2017, 12:04:48 AM
I played AFMr today and yesterday at TPF.  I had no plans to buy a game this weekend but after seeing it in person and playing it I was so impressed I ordered an LE.  It is stunningly beautiful.  The LED inserts are jewels.  The large color display and speakers just add to an all-time classic title.  Love the topper. Amazing job. 

Also, I spoke with two of my friends at TPF and all 3 of us agree we are in if there is a MBr. 
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Post by: PPS on March 26, 2017, 06:06:26 PM
We have LE slots available, if anyone is interested you can also put the Deposit on CC/Paypal (the final balance is Check/Bank Xfer).


http://www.planetarypinball.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=GAME


Yes, alot of people were pleasantly surprised at the show, that is the feedback we have recevied as well. We have a game here in Reno/Sparks NV so anyone can come and see it if you are in the area.



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Post by: sirlonzelot on March 27, 2017, 10:57:18 AM
Will the LE build first ? What did you except how many games a day wil be produced ?
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Post by: PPS on March 27, 2017, 11:09:49 AM
That is a question for Chicago Gaming as to what they can say about what they will build it what order - my assumption is that they will build some SE/CE for dealers and shows and then move to prioritize LE's/
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Post by: shilmover on March 27, 2017, 11:46:14 AM
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That is a question for Chicago Gaming as to what they can say about what they will build it what order - my assumption is that they will build some SE/CE for dealers and shows and then move to prioritize LE's/


Tell them to take their time... Work out the kinks with SE/CE and get the LEs perfect.   ;D
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Post by: Flowst on March 27, 2017, 01:35:36 PM
SE ordered, very excited.  Can't wait for remake #3 (particularly Monster Bash....)
Very positive experience working with Rick.